tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post5143032178203201401..comments2024-03-27T22:32:02.739+01:00Comments on Beneath the Stains of Time: Heavy MetalTomCathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-85271950822679012252017-06-26T15:59:40.184+02:002017-06-26T15:59:40.184+02:00You can find the "avenger from the past"...You can find the "avenger from the past" in practically every long-running detective series. It's a perfectly legite motive, but stands out in Kindaichi because it's the go-to motive. <br /><br />By the way, you should watch <i>Death's Shadow</i> from the <i>Midsomer Murders</i> with the Kindaichi formula in mind. It makes for a fun watch! TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-51211905634045457472017-06-24T08:10:29.187+02:002017-06-24T08:10:29.187+02:00In the vague defense of Kindachi, Conan indulges i...In the vague defense of Kindachi, Conan indulges itself in "avenger from the past" quite a bit as well, though I'll grant you nowhere near as often (but with a fair bit more moralizing, from what I've gathered.) Need to get this series watched already.<br /><br />The Dark OneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-40713696486790490362017-06-21T08:18:16.020+02:002017-06-21T08:18:16.020+02:00What makes this trick (IMHO) unique is how the exp...What makes this trick (IMHO) unique is how the explanation applied to two very different impossible problems (locked room and vanishing sword). I really liked and admired how that idea was worked out. TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-70097935117472957782017-06-21T03:28:22.163+02:002017-06-21T03:28:22.163+02:00wow... finally you do a review of this. i really a...wow... finally you do a review of this. i really appreciated what you did there. the trick in this story is unique in locked room, isn't it? and quite hard to solve, even when they just give the hint every where. heheh :D pokohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17569480608692346716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-66692916368099768622017-06-13T11:20:17.522+02:002017-06-13T11:20:17.522+02:00Yes, there was such a police inspector, before Ken...Yes, there was such a police inspector, before Kenmochi took over, but no idea if he came from <i>Detective Academy Q</i>. <br /><br />You know, they might as well pull the trigger and do an official crossover between Kindaichi and DAQ. After all, they already teamed Kindaichi with Conan. And Kindaichi is probably more compatible with DAQ than with Conan anyway. TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-12461584081030457432017-06-13T09:53:51.828+02:002017-06-13T09:53:51.828+02:00A caricature of him appeared in the exam, yes.
B...A caricature of him appeared in the exam, yes. <br /><br />By the way, I don't know if they changed that for the anime of the Prison Prep story, but the police inspector who appears at the very start of the story in the manga (he's handling the first murder until Kenmochi suddenly appears), also originates from Detective Academy Q.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-5819351424096081252017-06-12T21:23:50.299+02:002017-06-12T21:23:50.299+02:00If I remember correctly you hated it originally be...If I remember correctly you hated it originally because it heavily 'borrowed' ideas from other stories.<br /><br />Speaking of the Alchemy Murder Case, I wasn't too impressed with it either. Case in point being the method for passing through the door. From a practical standpoint totally preposterous.<br /><br />Anyway, recommend me some other episodes which you enjoyed. Maybe it will click for me then.<br /><br /><br />Origami<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-17178219590812891912017-06-12T21:10:28.007+02:002017-06-12T21:10:28.007+02:00Those short stories sound like Conan stories!
Ye...Those short stories sound like Conan stories! <br /><br />Yes, I meant the Opera House volume. And if that's the one that also had a hanging with no footprints around the body... that trick was stolen from one of my favorite Father Brown short stories. ;) <br /><br />Hey, try to move away from those earlier stories, but you'll keep bringing them up! TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-33472783342128849092017-06-12T21:06:06.581+02:002017-06-12T21:06:06.581+02:00You're not the only one who's surprised, O...You're not the only one who's surprised, Origami, but you know why I hated the original manga series. And that element of discontent is no longer present in this series and the plots show it. <br /><br />I love clever and ingenious (locked room) plots, which is what this series is giving me so far. Even if the stories are (mostly) told within the same, well worn formula of the original series. <i>The Alchemy Murder Case</i> is a good example of this, but the impossible problems are genuinely clever and original - far from the bottom of the barrel stuff that mystery addicts, like us, have to settle for. <br /><br />Oh, damn, I'm actually defending Kindaichi. The world has gone mad. I used to be the one who bluntly barreled into this series and told everyone they were liking garbage. We're truly living in interesting times! <br /><br />However, I completely agree with you that <i>The Kamikakushi Village Murders</i> is one of the pinnacles of the detective story in anime/manga. And, yes, Conan and DAQ are far better series. TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-34623550305211650742017-06-12T20:48:43.341+02:002017-06-12T20:48:43.341+02:00Oh, the pre-game show! That makes sense. I can und...Oh, the pre-game show! That makes sense. I can understand that would end up on the cutting room floor. <br /><br />By the way, didn't Kindaichi briefly appear in the <i>Detective Academy Q</i> manga? I remember seeing a page with him in the background during the entrance exam. TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-69141164433611423292017-06-12T20:37:10.959+02:002017-06-12T20:37:10.959+02:00Too many 'maybe"s in my previous post hah...Too many 'maybe"s in my previous post haha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-68247098575487001372017-06-12T20:35:46.633+02:002017-06-12T20:35:46.633+02:00I am surprised you are enjoying Kindaichi this muc...I am surprised you are enjoying Kindaichi this much.<br />I always kept an eye out for your and Ho-lings recommendation ever since aniway days, and granted even though you guys are on another level when it comes to familiarity of the genre, even to me with my limited insight this series comes across as half-baked, from its writing, pacing, motivations to MO etc. Cannot look at this as being anything else but a poor man's Detective Academy Q or Conan.<br /><br />All all the recommended eps of Kindaichi so far that I have watched the only thing that stood out to me was the abili trick of the Prep School Prison murder case.<br /><br />Maybe I am just too spoiled having watched The Kamikakushi Village murders of Detective Academy Q which to me is truly the pinnacle of the mystery genre presented through anime.<br /><br />Maybe you guys have exhausted the genre to the point where you have to settle for less? Dunno...maybe I am totally off-base here lol.<br /><br />Happy hunting for them classics.<br /><br />OrigamiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-50841280250002016442017-06-12T10:07:48.279+02:002017-06-12T10:07:48.279+02:00Some of the short stories have non-revenge motives...Some of the short stories have non-revenge motives. There's that (hilarious!) one in the old series, where the murderer is forced to pretend he's a restaurant owner (as he just killed her), when Hajime and Kenmochi stroll inside for a snack. Or the one where a valuable Holmes collection is stolen from the Fudo High Mystery Club's booth at the school fair.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-16548817215918149612017-06-12T10:01:53.210+02:002017-06-12T10:01:53.210+02:00I guess they changed it a bit in the anime, but th...I guess they changed it a bit in the anime, but the story starts with the final stage of the game show, where the contestants (among which are Hajime and Saburomaru) have to solve the quiz; this part was broadcast on TV. The winner of the quiz was the one who got to go to the island.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-41256861606525250872017-06-12T08:31:17.439+02:002017-06-12T08:31:17.439+02:00I'm afraid yes, it would be best that you brac...I'm afraid yes, it would be best that you brace yourself for even more avenger-motifs... <br /><br />I would consider myself a big fan of Kindaichi, and what Conan would be to you and Ho-Ling would be Kindaichi to me - it was my very first taste of Japanese drama, anime and then manga. But I would have similar sentiments to you. Given that some of the Kindaichi mysteries offer solid puzzle plots, it would be nice to have some variety in the characterisation and motivation of the suspects and culprits. <br /><br />P.S. You mentioned a rip-off of Gaston Leroux's 'Mystery of the Yellow Room' in relation to the Kanari oeuvre for the Kindaichi series. I'm presuming you're referring to the very first Kindaichi entry, 'Mystery of the Opera House'? Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03389512470283015279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-91313089769907136322017-06-12T08:04:56.239+02:002017-06-12T08:04:56.239+02:00I guess you've to accept that the avenger-moti...I guess you've to accept that the avenger-motif is a cornerstone of the series. It's just that I can't understand why they're so deadset on only using that single motive. <br /><br />I remember Amagi used the normal, wide variance of motives in <i>Detective Academy Q</i>. So why not for Kindaichi? <br /><br />But again. You've to accept it is part of the series and no doubt it will be a key part of the next episode. So I'll stop complaining about that as well. :)TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-42114366348415413242017-06-12T03:19:13.335+02:002017-06-12T03:19:13.335+02:00Actually, upon further thought, more varied or som...Actually, upon further thought, more varied or somewhat mixed motivations could be found in: <br /><br />金田一少年の殺人/ Kindaichi the Killer?<br />魔神遺跡殺人事件/ The Divine Bird Murders<br />露西亜人形殺人事件/ The Russian Doll Murders<br />ゲームの館殺人事件/ Nightmare Carnival Mystery<br /><br />But they are definitely the minority, and they don't range widely beyond the usual tropes. Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03389512470283015279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-50711596825165722082017-06-12T01:12:32.890+02:002017-06-12T01:12:32.890+02:00I'm glad you are continuing to enjoy your fora...I'm glad you are continuing to enjoy your forays into Kindaichi. :D I fear from my recollection there are very few entries into the Kindaichi canon that evolve beyond revenge as the key motivation...? Ho-Ling might be able to think of an exception, perhaps? Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03389512470283015279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-12294762453624487442017-06-11T12:38:32.495+02:002017-06-11T12:38:32.495+02:00No, the crossover part was not in the anime! Well,...No, the crossover part was not in the anime! Well, that's a downer. I love crossovers and just a brief shot of Q Class watching the treasure hunt on TV would have been a fun Easter egg. <br /><br />Was the treasure hunt a live broadcast in the manga? Because in the anime it was being taped. So maybe that's the reason for cutting it. Or simply a copyright issue between different license holders. <br /><br />Anyhow, the locked room and sword trick were definitely the highlight of the episode. TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516189026477178777.post-13553773733112808052017-06-11T12:06:10.711+02:002017-06-11T12:06:10.711+02:00Did they keep the Detective Academy Q crossover pa...Did they keep the Detective Academy Q crossover part in the anime adaptation? Saburomaru (of A Class) was one of the contestants in the game show, and there was a shot from Q class watching it on TV.<br /><br />I remember little about the details of the story (and I never, ever remember one-off characters), but I do remember the trick behin the locked room and how the murder weapon was hidden, and I really liked it, and it was nicely expanded upon to the main theme of the whole story.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.com